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Oct 25, 2021

Joining Jeffrey today is return guest, Mads Torgersen! Mads is the Lead Designer of the C# language and has been at Microsoft for 16 years. Prior to this, Mads was a professor and contributed to a language starting with J. He was previously on episode 49 of the podcast where he spoke about the latest on C# at the time. 


In this episode, Mads talks about C# and the next wave of C# 10 and .NET 6. With only three weeks away to the big release, Mads shares what he is most excited for as the Lead Designer and highlights some of the major simplifications they have made with the C# 10 release.


Topics of Discussion:

[:39] About The Azure DevOps Podcast, Clear Measure; the new video podcast Architect Tips; and Jeffrey’s offer to speak at virtual user groups.

[1:29] About today’s episode with Mads Torgersen.

[1:46] Jeffrey welcomes Mads Torgersen back to the podcast!

[2:14] Mads’ journey to becoming the Lead Designer of the C# language.

[4:13] Would Mads agree that Microsoft is taking over JavaScript with TypeScript?

[6:10] What Mads is most excited for with the C# 10 release as the Lead Designer.

[10:37] Mads highlights some of the big simplifications that have been made for C# 10.

[17:00] Are we close to just dispensing with namespace declarations and, if it’s not there, inferring it from the folder structure in a project?

[19:34] A word from The Azure DevOps Podcast’s sponsor: Clear Measure.

[20:05] When Mads thinks about modern C# in the .NET 6 era for regular business applications, what does he expect it to look like?

[23:59] Is Mads seeing records being the new go-to style?

[25:58] Mads discusses the several aspects to type mapping.

[28:55] The other themes (beyond simplicity) that are coming out with this next wave of C# 10 and .NET 6.

[34:28] Is there any data for the tests and code bases that have been updated?

[35:39] Mads shares some guidance around the async code.

[41:00] Mads insights on C# 10 running inside web browsers.

[42:19] Where to learn more about C#10 and .NET 6.

[43:30] Jeffrey thanks Mads Torgersen for joining the podcast!


Mentioned in this Episode:

Architect Tips — New video podcast!

Azure DevOps

Clear Measure (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer’s Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon! — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure ebook!

Jeffrey Palermo’s YouTube

Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter Follow to stay informed about future events!

DEVintersection Conference — Dec. 7th‒9th in Las Vegas, Nevada (Use discount code: PALERMO)

AI Conference — Oct. 27th‒29th, 2021

Mads Torgersen’s LinkedIn

Mads Torgersen’s Twitter @MadsTorgersen

“Mads Torgersen on the Latest in C# — Episode 49”

Daniel Roth on Web Development with .NET 6 - Episode 158”

C# Language Design on GitHub


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