Preview Mode Links will not work in preview mode

Azure DevOps Podcast

Message from Jeffrey Palermo: Howdy.  Welcome to my podcast.  I hope it helps you ship software more quickly and more reliably. Through the topics and guests, I hope your life is made easier. Let me know what topics would be helpful for you.

Podcast sponsor: Clear Measure We are a software architecture company that empowers our client's development teams to be self-sufficient: moving fast, delivering quality, and running their systems with confidence.

Dec 18, 2023

Steve works with companies that want to avoid the trap of technical debt by helping their teams deliver quality software quickly. Steve and his team at NimblePros have been described by clients as a “force multiplier,” amplifying the value of existing development teams. Steve’s client list includes Microsoft, Quicken Loans, Celina Insurance, and many other satisfied customers. He also offers career coaching to developers through Steve has been recognized as a Microsoft MVP for over 20 years.


Topics of Discussion:

[4:24] Steve’s path into development.

[5:14] How writing testable software became a passion of Steve’s.

[7:09] Which parts of the .NET release stood out the most to Steve?

[7:41] .NET Aspire.

[12:26] Making local development easier.

[14:05] Steve believes developers should be capable and comfortable writing unit tests for their software and writing unit-testable code.

[15:27] Dependency inversion principle.

[16:40] Thinking of interfaces as describing the “what” and implementations as describing the “how.”

[17:57] A few other items that Steve is also excited about in C# 12.

[20:58] Class level parameters in C#.

[25:59] Managing dependencies in distributed systems.

[28:47] The PACELC Principle.

[31:08] The trade-offs of using microservices, including the potential for inconsistent data and the need for coordination between services.

[36:34] AI’s impact on developer productivity.

[41:46] The importance of understanding AI’s limitations.


Mentioned in this Episode:

Clear Measure Way

Architect Forum

Software Engineer Forum

Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at

Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer’s Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon!

Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events!

Clean Architecture .NET Conf 2023

Steve Smith: Domain Driven Design

Steve Smith Twitter

Dependency Injection

Pluralsight course on SOLID

Pacelc Principle


Want to Learn More?

Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.