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Oct 9, 2023

Shawn Wildermuth has been tinkering with computers and software since he got a VIC-20 back in the early ’80s. He has been a Microsoft MVP, Pluralsight Author, and filmmaker. You can reach him at his blog at and he makes films at


Topics of Discussion:

[5:34] What got Shawn excited about coding?

[9:26] How should developers be thinking about just the concept of an API? What are the categories that they should be aware of?

[16:04] Shawn’s first steps in designing an API.

[18:37] What are the newer concepts and newer advances that are worth taking a look at?

[19:10] Maturing minimal APIs.

[24:53] Endpoint filtering.

[27:01] Does the core logic need to be aware that it might be in a caching workflow, or does caching as a concept belong to the interface for the application programming?

[31:45] Shawn’s favorite method for testing the complete set of web service APIs.

[34:59] Helping young developers not get lost along the way of feeling the need to be perfect.

[39:25] How developers make the decision of where and how to run the applications they built.


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