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Azure DevOps Podcast

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Podcast sponsor: Clear Measure We are a software architecture company that empowers our client's development teams to be self-sufficient: moving fast, delivering quality, and running their systems with confidence.

Mar 8, 2021

This week Jeffrey is joined by another fantastic return guest — Rob Richardson! Rob is a software craftsman that is building web properties in ASP.NET, Node, Angular, and Vue. He’s a software developer, a community leader, a mentor, and the business owner of Richardson & Sons. Additionally, Rob is a Microsoft MVP; a published author; a frequent speaker at conferences, user groups, and community events; and a diligent teacher and student of high-quality software development.


In today’s conversation, Jeffrey and Rob discuss database DevOps. Rob speaks about a user’s journey through an application, delivering value, holistically understanding the DevOps system, how to get set up properly with database DevOps, database manipulation, different database DevOps approaches, and more.


This episode is jam-packed with tons of great information so be sure to not miss out!


Topics of Discussion:

[:38] Be sure to visit AzureDevOps.Show for past episodes and show notes.

[:50] About The Azure DevOps Podcast, Clear Measure, and Jeffrey’s offer to speak at virtual user groups.

[1:14] About Jeffrey’s newest podcast, Architect Tips!

[1:20] About today’s episode with return guest, Rob Richardson.

[1:33] Jeffrey welcomes Rob back to the podcast!

[3:55] Rob shares his take on the state of DevOps today.

[6:42] What is DevOps after-production comprised of?

[7:30] Rob talks logging and monitoring when it comes to DevOps.

[8:43] Rob shares about his journey as a developer in the space.

[14:03] Rob shares insights on databases in DevOps environments. He also discusses a migration-based approach vs. a state-based approach vs. a hybrid approach.

[21:00] A word from Azure DevOps Podcast’s sponsor: Clear Measure.

[21:32] When it comes to each of these approaches (migration-based, state-based approach, and hybrid), does Rob find that he often builds a process himself or does he select tools to aid him in this process?

[24:37] Rob and Jeffrey discuss database manipulation.

[28:10] Rob highlights an incredibly useful feature: feature flags.

[30:32] When it comes to the methodology of turning on and off code based on a table in a database, does Rob build that pattern himself or does he use any specific products?

[32:57] Rob shares what he loves about database DevOps in particular.

[33:27] Where to find Rob and his content online.

[34:17] Jeffrey thanks Rob for joining the podcast!


Mentioned in this Episode:

Architect Tips — New video podcast!

Azure DevOps

Clear Measure (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon! — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure ebook!

Jeffrey Palermo’s Youtube

Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter Follow to stay informed about future events!

The Azure DevOps Podcast’s Twitter: @AzureDevOpsShow

Rob Richardson’s Blog

Rob’s Twitter: @Rob_Rich

The Azure DevOps Podcast Ep. 34: “Rob Richardson on Containers in Azure”

Rob’s upcoming presentations







SQL Server

SQL Source Control

SQL Change Automation

Entity Framework



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