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Jul 5, 2021

Richard is a Principal Program Manager on the .NET Core team at Microsoft. He's been with Microsoft for a total of 21 years, 18 of which have been with the .NET team (since 2003 when the codename was Whidbey!) Richard is truly a mover and shaker when it comes to pushing the .NET platform forward! Currently, he’s working on runtime features and performance, CLI experience, docker container experience, ARM32 and ARM64 support, IoT/GPIO/PWM support, blogging and customer engagement, and speaking at conferences. He's also part of the design team that defines new .NET runtime capabilities and features. And in his spare time, he enjoys British rock and Doctor Who!


A lot has changed since Richard was last on the show! In this episode, he is here to discuss all of the changes to the new .NET platform, how he’s continuing to push the .NET platform forward together with his team, the current state-of-the-art tools and techniques in the .NET IoT space and .NET applications, exciting developments with his current .NET blog series on, and much more!


Topics of Discussion:

[:14] About The Azure DevOps Podcast, Clear Measure, the new podcast Architect Tips, and Jeffrey’s offer to speak at virtual user groups.

[1:23] About today’s episode with Richard Lander!

[2:07] Jeffrey welcomes Richard Lander back to the podcast.

[2:24] Richard shares what has changed on his team in the last two years and what they have been recently up to.

[4:19] Richard shares about his role with the .NET team and what he mainly works on.

[5:54] Richard’s vision and goals with the new .NET blog series.

[7:56] About the various topics Richard has covered thus far with his blog series and a sneak preview of some upcoming blog topics he will be covering.

[8:42] Richard shares what he and his team are doing on the front of platform OS enablement and Apple Silicon.

[13:04] Jeffrey and Richard discuss Microsoft’s focus on backwards compatibility.

[14:44] The current state-of-the-art in the .NET IoT space.

[18:51] Have the .NET and IoT teams had conversations around Terminal.Gui?

[19:20] A word from Azure DevOps Podcast’s sponsor: Clear Measure.

[21:00] What is the current method with IoT devices? Are there any built-in testing capabilities?

[24:19] Richard shares what the current state-of-the-art is for those doing regular .NET applications.

[29:22] If a developer just deploys to App Service, are they using Azure containers under the covers regardless?

[30:50] Richard shares his predictions on what he sees as being the most general-purpose runtime (AKS, App Service, ACI, etc.) in Azure for regular Blazor applications that developers are starting to build.

[34:40] Jeffrey and Richard reflect on why it is such an interesting and exciting time to be a developer.

[35:45] Does .NET and C# have the fastest mainstream execution?

[39:48] Jeffrey thanks Richard for joining the podcast.


Mentioned in this Episode:

Architect Tips — New video podcast!

Azure DevOps

Clear Measure (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon! — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure ebook!

Jeffrey Palermo’s Youtube

Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter Follow to stay informed about future events!

The Azure DevOps Podcast’s Twitter: @AzureDevOpsShow

Richard Lander’s LinkedIn

Richard Lander .NET Blogs

The Azure DevOps Podcast Ep. 50: “Richard Lander on .NET Core Runtime”


Apple Silicon

Microsoft Ignite

The Azure DevOps Podcast Ep. 146: “Charlie Kindel on Terminal.Gui”

Terminal Gui source code





Azure ACI


App Service

Microsoft Build


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