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Sep 30, 2019

This is the second part to the two-episode series with Oren Eini! If you haven’t listened to the first part already be sure to tune into that one first!


Oren Eini, pseudonym Ayende Rahien, is a frequent blogger at and has over 20 years of experience in the development world, with strong focuses on the Microsoft and .NET ecosystem. As an internationally acclaimed presenter, Oren has appeared at DevTeach, JAOO (now GOTO) QCon, Oredev, NDC, Yow! and Progressive.NET conferences; sharing his knowledge via conferences and written works such as DSLs in Boo: Domain-Specific Languages in .NET, published by Manning and now another book, Inside RavenDB. Oren remains dedicated and focused on architecture and best practices that promote quality software and zero-friction development. And of course, Oren is also the founder and CEO of RavenDB; a fully transactional, NoSQL, all-in-one database.


In this second episode, Oren and Jeffrey continue their discussion about RavenDB and how Oren built the DevOps environment for it. There are many unique complexities to their environment and Oren details them all out — from the tests they conduct to the migration process, and much, much more — you won’t want to miss the second part to this fascinating conversation!


Topics of Discussion:

[:53] Diving right back into the conversation, Jeffrey asks Oren how he has designed his DevOps environment to identify when he’s encountering tricky stuff?

[1:45] Roughly how many test cases are there?

[4:04] What is Oren’s server of choice?

[4:22] Where and how to check out and download all the code for yourself!

[6:05] The problem with unit tests. 

[8:37] Oren explains how, after building, they fan out and do multiple deployments in different scenarios and platforms at once so that they can execute their tests.

[9:29] What longevity tests are and what they accomplish.

[13:00] A word from Azure DevOps Podcast’s sponsor: Clear Measure.

[13:28] Oren speaks about the value they’re getting from static analysis.

[28:50] For those who have never used a document database before, when should they consider taking a look at or utilize RavenDB?

[34:15] How does one migrate their data structure? How does that concept come into play with RavenDB?

[35:29] Is there a migration process or tool for when you need to transform from time-to-time as part of your deployment?

[35:40] In regards to integrating with other tools for people who only use SQL Server — what is there experience going to be like?

[39:29] For those who want to learn more, Oren gives some recommendations on resources to follow-up on.


Mentioned in this Episode:

Azure DevOps

Clear Measure (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure, by Jeffrey Palermo — Visit to get your hands on two free books to give away at conferences or events!
Oren Eini (LinkedIn)

DSLs in Boo: Domain-Specific Languages in .NET, by Ayande Rahien

Inside RavenDB, by Oren Eini


Jeffrey’s .NET DevOps Bootcamp (Oct. 28-30th, in Lakeway, TX)

Microsoft Ignite 2019

Jeffrey Palermo’s Youtube

Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter Follow to stay informed about future events!


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