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Azure DevOps Podcast

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Feb 25, 2019

Today’s featured guest is Martin Woodward! Martin is a Principal Group Program Manager on the Azure DevOps team at Microsoft as well as the Vice President of the .NET Foundation. Martin has been with Microsoft quite a while, joining back in 2009. When he first started with Microsoft, his focus was on open source, then bringing GitHub into TFS and Microsoft, and then helping with .NET team. He even created Microsoft’s original account on GitHub.


In today’s episode, Martin and Jeffrey dive right into the topic of Azure DevOps with GitHub; discussing some of the changes since Microsoft acquired GitHub, whether you should choose to work with Azure Repos or GitHub, and how to use Azure DevOps Services with GitHub.


Topics of Discussion:

[1:07] Jeffrey introduces Scott and welcomes him to the show!

[1:50] About Martin’s journey at Microsoft.

[6:50] Why and when Martin opened the original Microsoft GitHub account.

[9:11] Martin and Jeffrey discuss some of the early projects and changes to the Outercurve Foundation (AKA CodePlex Foundation).

[11:10] Is the Outercurve Foundation still going?

[11:36] Martin and Jeffrey talk interesting offerings from the .NET Foundation.

[16:15] How to get sponsorships for user groups.

[17:40] Since Microsoft acquired GitHub, what should people be using; Git Repositories or GitHub? And is Azure Repos going to die?

[21:09] Why Azure Pipelines is such a simple, powerful solution.

[22:42] A word from Azure DevOps Podcast’s sponsor: Clear Measure.

[23:07] Martin addresses the “elephant in the room”: Azure Repos.

[25:50] Between Azure Repos and GitHub, was does Martin see being the premiere option 10 years down the line?

[30:17] The importance of having a GitHub account.

[32:30] Martin and Jeffrey talk about how the industry is adopting more engineering practices and collaboration which makes DevOps work so well.

[34:49] Does Martin agree with Sam Guckenheimer’s ideas on DevOps (from when he was on the podcast)?

[37:09] Martin’s advice on how to use Azure DevOps Services with GitHub.

[47:12] Martin’s recommendations on what to follow-up on after listening to this week’s podcast!


Mentioned in this Episode:

Azure DevOps

Clear Measure (Sponsor)

Martin Woodward (LinkedIn)

.NET Foundation

Outercurve Foundation (CodePlex Foundation)

Azure DevOps User Group





Azure DevOps Server

The Azure DevOps Podcast episode 003: “Sam Guckenheimer on Testing, Data Collection, and the State of DevOps Report”

Azure Pipelines


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