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May 4, 2020

Joining Jeffery Palermo today is Maria Naggaga! Maria is a Senior Program Manager on the .NET team at Microsoft building .NET Interactive, which delivers interactive experiences both online and offline. It provides data scientists and developers with a way to explore data, experiment with code, and try new ideas effortlessly. 


Maria has been with the Microsoft team for almost eight years now having joined in 2012 right out of college after finishing her computer science degree. She initially joined Microsoft as a developer evangelist and held that position for nearly 4 years. In 2016, a year after she bumped into the .NET team at a conference, she joined the .NET Interactive team.


In this episode, Jeffrey and Maria are of course discussing .NET Interactive! Maria outlines the group of CLI tools and APIs that enable users to create interactive experiences: trydotnet.js, dotnet interactive global tool, and the dotnet try global tool; what’s on the roadmap for future development; important aspects to take note of; and how to get started with it following the show!


Topics of Discussion:

[:38] Be sure to visit AzureDevOps.Show for past episodes and show notes.

[:46] About Jeffrey’s current promotions and offers.

[1:50] About today’s episode with Maria Naggaga!

[2:07] Jeffrey welcomes Maria to the show.

[2:14] Maria speaks about her background in the industry.

[4:25] Maria explains what Try .NET is.

[5:55] Maria explains what .NET Interactive includes and what it depends on.

[6:55] Maria takes a deep-dive into their internal tool, trydotnet.js.

[9:29] Maria provides some background on why they took a dependency on Blazor.

[11:00] A word from Azure DevOps Podcast’s sponsor: Clear Measure.

[11:27] Jeffrey shares some quick announcements.

[13:16] Maria speaks about the next tool included in .NET Interactive: dotnet try global tool.

[16:20] What they want to add to dotnet try global tool in the future.

[16:47] Maria speaks about the newest ‘child’ to the .NET Interactive tool: the dotnet interactive global tool. She also gives a quick overview of Azure Synapse.

[19:19] Could this tool impact knowledge base articles? Can this transform any type of documentation or is it suited just for certain types?

[19:52] Is this tool also geared toward actually incorporating a portion of UI?

[22:12] Maria shares some information about the .NET interactive kernel that has been a gamechanger for them.

[24:02] Is Visual Basic also included in their list of languages that they support?

[24:57] Is there a future ‘baby’ in the plans for .NET Interactive?

[26:08] Maria speaks about some more of the ongoing conversations that they’re having with the team regarding snippets vs. full programs.

[27:41] Maria guides listeners to what they can check out now for those who want to get started using the technology.

[30:06] Jeffrey thanks Maria for joining the podcast!


Mentioned in this Episode:

Azure DevOps

Clear Measure (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon! — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure ebook! — Visit to get your hands on two free books to give away at conferences or events!

Jeffrey Palermo’s Youtube

Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter Follow to stay informed about future events! — Email Jeffrey for a free 30-point DevOps inspection (regularly priced at $5000!) — Spaces are limited!

Maria Naggaga’s LinkedIn

Try .NET

.NET Interactive

“.NET Interactive is here! | .NET Notebooks Preview 2,” by Maria Naggaga on DevBlogs.Microsoft (Thoroughly breaks down .NET Interactive)



Microsoft Build 2020

Azure Container Instances

dotnet try global tool


Jupyter Notebook

Azure Synapse Analytics

Microsoft Azure Notebooks

dotnet/interactive on GitHub 


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