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Aug 25, 2025

Today’s guest is Jon Peppers, Principal Software Engineer on the .NET MAUI team at Microsoft. Before building developer tools, Jonathan was a Xamarin MVP and the lead developer behind various cross-platform Maui apps. With a deep background in C#, from WPF-based self-checkout systems to home automation software featured on Extreme Home Makeover, Jonathan brings a wealth of experience in both app development and the frameworks that power them.

 

Topics of Discussion:

[1:59] Jonathan recounts his first job after college, working on C# for self-checkout software and migrating to WPF.

[4:40] How much on the continuum are we right now with Copilot agent mode?

[7:11]  The process of setting up Maui development, including installing Visual Studio and the Maui workload.

[12:40] Using Copilot for multi-language debugging.

[18:42]  Copilot's effectiveness in deleting unnecessary files and finding errors in string localization files.

[19:10] Copilot coding agent.

[21:20] The process of assigning issues to Copilot, which creates a branch, opens a pull request, and updates the description with its plan.

[27:36]  The availability of different models in VS Code, including Claude and GPT, and the anticipation of new models being released.

[31:36] The potential for using LLMs on-device for privacy concerns, especially in healthcare.

[35:01] Jonathan encourages developers to try Copilot in their IDEs and explore its code completions and suggestions.

[35:17] Jonathan’s Cat Swipe dating site!

 

Mentioned in this Episode:

Clear Measure Way

Architect Forum

Software Engineer Forum

How the .NET Maui Team uses GitHub Copilot for Productivity

Jonathan on LinkedIn

Jonathan Peppers

 

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