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Azure DevOps Podcast

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Podcast sponsor: Clear Measure We are a software architecture company that empowers our client's development teams to be self-sufficient: moving fast, delivering quality, and running their systems with confidence.

Sep 20, 2021

This week, Jeffrey is joined by Joe Guadagno! Joe is a Director of Engineering at Rocket Mortgage, the nation’s largest mortgage lender based in Detroit, Michigan. He has been writing software for over 20 years, has been an active member of the .NET community, and has served as a Microsoft MVP in .NET for more than ten years. At Rocket Mortgage, Joe leads three software development teams building and modernizing our internal services. He has spoken through the United States and international events on topics ranging from Microsoft .NET, Microsoft Azure, Ionic, Bootstrap, and many others.


Joe shares about the latest in Azure DevOps, his transition from being a programmer to leading several teams of multiple programmers, his advice to programmers, and the latest state-of-the-art tools and resources that programmers should be paying attention to in 2021 and beyond.


Topics of Discussion:

[:39] About The Azure DevOps Podcast, Clear Measure, and Jeffrey’s offer to speak at virtual user groups.

[1:24] Jeffrey is looking to hire an apprentice! If you, or anyone you know, loves to code and wants to pursue software engineering, apply today!

[1:59] Be sure to check out the new video podcast, Architect Tips.

[2:02] About today’s episode with Joe Guadagno.

[3:18] Jeffrey welcomes Joe to the podcast.

[5:02] About Joe’s talks at the upcoming 2021 DEVintersection Conference.

[5:53] About the upcoming Party with Palermo.

[6:15] How Joe originally got into programming and what his career journey has looked like since.

[10:08] Why did Joe make the transition from programmer to leading several teams of multiple programmers? Why did he decide to take on a leadership position? And what are some of the major lessons he has learned along the way?

[12:33] Joe shares more about what led him to pursue his passion for leading.

[14:13] A word from The Azure DevOps Podcast’s sponsor: Clear Measure.

[14:45] Joe highlights the current state of the art with regards to Azure DevOps that developers need to be paying attention to.

[20:41] How Joe thinks about organizing his teams with regards to consistency and which tools that they use.

[22:37] Do all of the teams use Azure DevOps?

[23:38] Which feature Joe sees as a must-have for those using Azure DevOps.

[24:29] Does Rocket Mortgage have a mobile team?

[25:28] Education curve for developers 

[26:50] More about Joe’s upcoming talks at events.

[27:34] Patterns that aspiring architects should know about.

[29:26] Jeffrey thanks Joe for joining the podcast!


Mentioned in this Episode:

Architect Tips — New video podcast!

Azure DevOps

Clear Measure (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer’s Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon! — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure ebook!

Jeffrey Palermo’s YouTube

Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter Follow to stay informed about future events!

DEVintersection Conference — Dec. 7th‒9th in Las Vegas, Nevada

Joe’s Email: 

Joe’s LinkedIn:

Joe’s Blog:

Joe’s Presentations:

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Rocket Mortgage

Azure Application Insights

Azure App Center 

Azure Pipelines


KCDC 2021


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