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Azure DevOps Podcast

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Jun 22, 2020

Joining Jeffrey once again is return guest, Elton Stoneman! Elton has spent most of his career as a consultant, designing and building large enterprise applications. When he discovered the container revolution he joined Docker and worked with the team for three fast and furious years! Now, he helps people break up old enterprise apps and build new cloud-native apps — running them all in Docker and Kubernetes. He also speaks and runs workshops at conferences around the world, writes books and video courses, and helps organizations at every stage in their container journey. On top of that, Elton is a 10-time Microsoft MVP and has also been recognized as a Docker Captain!


In this episode, Jeffrey and Elton are discussing Docker, Kubernetes, the state and future of containers, his new books on Docker and Kubernetes, and everything he thinks developers should know going forward on the topic of Kubernetes, Docker, and containers!


Topics of Discussion:

[:38] Be sure to visit AzureDevOps.Show for past episodes and show notes.

[:48] About the recent Microsoft Build Conference and The Azure DevOps Podcast.

[1:44] About today’s episode with Elton Stoneman!

[2:28] Jeffrey welcomes Elton back to the show!

[2:45] Elton gives an update on his career and his transition from Docker to going independent.

[4:08] About Elton’s latest book, Learn Kubernetes in a Month of Lunches.

[4:56] Elton speaks about the state of Windows Containers and the new workloads and scenarios that are really easy now as compared to the past.

[7:57] Elton explains what containers are, the difference between various concepts, and demystifies some of the common misconceptions around containers in the Windows ecosystem.

[13:44] Many people are used to deploying their web application to an iss-vm or Azure App Service. Does Elton deploy his application to a Docker container or does he create a new image that has the files of his application in it?

[14:52] Elton highlights some of the recent, important DockerCon and Azure announcements.

[18:11] A word from Azure DevOps Podcast’s sponsor: Clear Measure.

[18:35] Jeffrey shares some quick announcements.

[20:27] Jeffrey and Elton dive back into their conversation!

[22:56] Elton gives his predictions on how many developers he thinks, down the road, are going to need to know Kubernetes.

[29:14] Kubernetes vs. Azure Container Instances.

[32:20] Is there a quickstart for Docker in Azure?

[37:00] Where to get a hold of Elton’s two books!

[37:42] Jeffrey thanks Elton for joining the podcast!


Mentioned in this Episode:

Azure DevOps

Clear Measure (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon! — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure ebook!

Jeffrey Palermo’s Youtube

Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter Follow to stay informed about future events! — Email Jeffrey for a free 30-point DevOps inspection (regularly priced at $5000!) — Spaces are limited!

Elton Stoneman’s Blog

Elton Stoneman’s Pluralsight Courses

Elton Stoneman’s LinkedIn

Elton Stoneman’s Twitter: @EltonStoneman

The Azure DevOps Podcast: “Elton Stoneman on Docker in a DevOps World —  Episode 67”

Learn Docker in a Month of Lunches, by Elton Stoneman

Learn Kubernetes in a Month of Lunches, by Elton Stoneman

Windows Containers



DockerCon 2020

Azure Container Instances


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