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Azure DevOps Podcast

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Mar 4, 2019

This week, Jeffrey welcomes his guest, Beth Massi! Beth is the Product Marketing Manager for the entire .NET platform. She’s also on the Board of Directors for .NET Foundation. She has been with Microsoft for over 12 years, originally starting out as a Senior Program Manager.


Beth fell in love with the .NET platform when it was first released in 2000 and hasn’t stopped working with it since — making her the perfect person to talk all things .NET with Jeffrey today!


In this episode, they discuss whether or not developers should move to .NET Core (or wait until .NET Core 3), the .NET architecture center and resources, and the open source movement. They also discuss Beth’s background with .NET, her advice to those coming into the field now, how to become a member or Board member of the .NET Foundation, and more.


Topics of Discussion:

[:45] About today’s show with Beth Massi.

[1:02] Beth introduces herself, talks about her career journey, and shares details of her current job and team.

[11:30] Beth’s take on whether or not you should move over to .NET Core or wait until .NET Core 3.

[17:06] Beth and Jeffrey talk about how many developers are taking advantage of working in .NET Framework (at least 4.6.1) which allows them to make use of the .NET Core libraries that are compiled for .NET Standard 2.

[19:36] Talking Rockford Lhotka and moving apps .NET Core.

[20:33] A word from Azure DevOps Podcast’s sponsor: Clear Measure.

[20:58] About the architecture center and the resources offered.

[22:26] How is C# doing as far as language popularity?

[25:28] Beth talks languages, which to choose, and C# competitors.

[27:39] Jeffrey and Beth discuss the shift to open source within companies and the open source movement.

[33:20] Beth’s advice to those just coming into the field now.

[35:25] Beth explains how to become a part of the .NET Foundation Board, her role at the .NET Foundation, and what she’s looking forward to with the foundation.

[37:11] How to become a member of the .NET Foundation.

[38:40] How Jeffrey and Beth hope the .NET Foundation expands.

[40:20] What Beth recommends you follow-up on after listening to today’s show!


Mentioned in this Episode:

Azure DevOps

Clear Measure (Sponsor)

Beth Massi (LinkedIn)


.NET Foundation

Rockford Lhotka’s Blog


Visual Studio 2019 Launch Event


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